MINUTES
HISTORICAL AREAS BOARD OF REVIEW
October 1, 2019
MEMBERS PRESENT: Margaret Raso, Chair
Scott Wheatley
William Walther
Loren Plotkin
Larry Bucciarelli
Carol Schelin
Thano Schoppel
ABSENT: NONE
ALSO PRESENT: Deborah Arbolino, Administrative Aide
Dennis Michaels, Deputy Town Attorney
Anne Marie Ambrose, Official Stenographer
Margaret Raso, Chairperson, called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Hearings on this meeting’s agenda, which are made a part of this meeting, were held as noted below:
APPLICANTS DECISION HABR#
POSTPONED ITEM:
PARK/DICKEY APPROVED AS HABR#19-16
679 Oak Tree Road PRESENTED
Palisades, NY
78.17 / 2 / 29; R-40 zoning district
NEW ITEMS:
WIEGEL GENERATOR APPROVED AS HABR#19-17
124 Washington Spring Road PRESENTED
Palisades, NY
78.18 / 1 / 31; R-22 zoning district
CHEER HALL APPROVED AS HABR#19-18
20 Washington Spring Road PRESENTED with
Palisades, NY suggestion regarding railing
78.19 / 1 / 17; R-22 zoning district
THE OLD NEW STONE HOUSE ARBOR APPROVED HABR#19-19
ARBOR AS PRESENTED
4 Woods Road
Palisades, NY
78.18 / 1 48; R-40 zoning district
Minutes
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THE DECISIONS RELATED TO THE ABOVE HEARINGS are inserted herein and made part of these minutes.
There being no further business to come before the Board, on motion duly made, seconded and carried, the meeting was adjourned at 8:15 P.M.
DATED: October 1, 2019 HISTORICAL AREAS BOARD OF REVIEW
BY: _____________________________
Deborah Arbolino, Administrative Aide
DECISION
APPROVED AS PRESENTED
TO: Jeremiah Dickey HABR #19-16
679 Oak Tree Road October 1, 2019
Palisades, New York 10964 Permit #49166
FROM: HISTORICAL AREAS BOARD OF REVIEW, TOWN OF ORANGETOWN
HABR#19-16: Application of Jeremiah Dickey for review of removal of an exterior smoke stack, change in location of a window and patching of a roof for phase 2 of a renovation of an existing single-family residence. The premises are located at 679 Oak Tree Road, in the Town of Orangetown, Hamlet of Palisades, New York. Chapter 12 of the Code of the Town of Orangetown, Section 12-4 (A) Historical Areas Board of Review.
Tax Map Designation: 78.17 / 2 / 29; R-40 zoning district.
Heard by the HISTORICAL AREAS BOARD OF REVIEW at a meeting held on Tuesday, October 1, 2019 at which time the Board made the following determination:
Jeremiah Dickey appeared.
The following documents were presented:
- Architectural plans dated 06/18/2016 original done by Kier Levesque, Architect and revised by J Dickey dated 7/30/2019 labeled Park & Dickey Residence Elevations Plan labeled Partial First Floor original by Tom Santarsiero 3/19/16 revised by J Dickey 7/30/19.
- Survey of property for Sunny Park and Jeremiah Dickey dated August 4, 2016 signed and sealed by John R. Atzl, LS.
Jeremiah Dickey stated that they were renovating the kitchen in February and they took out a wall between the kitchen and the family room; they are changing the location of cabinets, counter tops and moving a window; that they are also removing a wood burning stove and the smoke stack that goes with it; that they are patching the roof and installing an Anderson window in a new location.
PUBLIC COMMENT:
No public comment.
Park/Dickey
HABR#19-16 Permit # 49166
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FINDINGS OF FACT:
The Board, after personal observation of the property, hearing all the testimony and reviewing all drawings and plans, and other submissions, correspondence and reports (if any), found as fact, that: The application as presented, would not adversely affect the Historical Areas and the surrounding area. The design and materials for the proposed roof shingles, siding, windows and gutters and leaders:
- The roof is black asphalt shingles to match existing.
- The siding shall be cedar to match existing.
- The gutters and leaders shall be white aluminum to match existing.
- The windows shall be Anderson 400 Series simulated divided lights in white.
THis APPROVAL/decision, INCLUDING THE BOARD’S REQUIRED modifications TO THE APPLICANT’S DRAWINGS AND /OR PLANS, or conditions set forth herein, if any, IS GRANTED BY THE historical areas board of review subject to any such conditions and/or modifications, and is LIMITED TO THE SPECIFIC RELIEF REQUESTED HEREIN.
** PRE-1918 CONSTRUCTION: please be advised: In the Historic Area, all construction requiring a building permit or any exterior changes (including paint color) to buildings constructed prior to 1918, requires approval from the historicAL areas board of review.
prior approval of the historical area board of review is required prior to any change or modification of the requirements and/or conditions set forth in this decision, including, but not limited to:
- roofing SHINGLES (IF CHANGING COLOR)
- siding
- decorative siding
- soffits & fascia
- gutters and leaders
- windows
- trim
- shutters
- doors
- lighting
- LOCATION OF AIR CONDITIONING UNITS
- WALKWAYS, PATIOS
- POOLS, SPAS AND FENCES
- signs
- any change in the above list including color, material and/or manufacturer
if you have any questions, please contact debbie arbolino, clerk to the historicAL areaS board of review at (845) 359-8410.
Park/ Dickey
HABR# 19-16 Permit #49166
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DECISION: In view of the foregoing, and after personal observation of the property, hearing all the testimony before the Board, and reviewing all drawings and plans, and other submissions, correspondence and reports ( if any), the application for the windows, siding repair, roof repair and gutters and leaders are APPROVED.
The foregoing resolution to approve the windows, siding repair, roof repair and gutters and leaders as presented was presented and moved by Larry Bucciarelli, seconded by Thano Schoppel; and carried as follows: William Walther, aye; Thano Schoppel, aye; Margaret Raso, aye; Larry Bucciarelli, aye; Carol Schelin, aye; Loren Plotkin, aye; and Scott Wheatley, aye.
The Administrative Aide to the Board is hereby authorized, directed and empowered to sign this decision and file a certified copy thereof in the office of the Town Clerk.
Dated: October 1, 2019
HISTORICAL AREAS BOARD OF REVIEW
TOWN OF ORANGETOWN
BY: __________________________________
Deborah Arbolino, Administrative Aide
DISTRIBUTION:
APPLICANT TOWN CLERK
TOWN BOARD MEMBERS HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT
HABR MEMBERS TOWN HISTORIAN
SUPERVISOR DEPT. OF ENVIRONMENTAL
TOWN ATTORNEY ENGINEERING
DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY HABR, PB, FILE
OBZPAE PB, ZBA, ACABOR CHAIRMAN
BUILDING INSPECTOR- Dave M.
DECISION
APPROVED AS PRESENTED
TO: Christian Martos (Cheer Hall) HABR #19-18
15 N. Mill Street Suite 207 October 1, 2019
Nyack, New York 10960 Permit #48995
FROM: HISTORICAL AREAS BOARD OF REVIEW, TOWN OF ORANGETOWN
HABR#19-18: Application of Cheer Hall LLC for review of remodeling and repair of existing 4,585 sq. ft. frame and stone single-family residence. The premises are located at 20 Washington Spring Road, in the Town of Orangetown, Hamlet of Palisades, New York. Chapter 12 of the Code of the Town of Orangetown, Section 12-4(A), Historical Areas Board of Review.
Tax Map Designation: 78.19 / 1 / 17; R-22 zoning district
Heard by the HISTORICAL AREAS BOARD OF REVIEW at a meeting held on Tuesday, October 1, 2019 at which time the Board made the following determination:
Henry Rust, Architect, and Andrea Currier, Manager, appeared.
The following documents were presented:
- Architectural plans dated 08/23/2019 signed and sealed by Christian Louis Martos, Profession Engineer, labeled “The Captain John Willsey House” A-8, A-9, A-10, A-11 (4 pages).
- Site Plan labeled “ Proposed Alterations to the Captain John Willsey House” dated 08/23/2019 based on survey by James G. Scheuermann, L.S. Warwick , NY ( 1 page)
- Ten 8” x 10” color photos of the existing house.
Andrea Currier, owner and manager of the property, stated that the house is in desperate need of repair; that she owns the abutting property and she remembered when Dr. Brandt owned the property and then the Normans’ in the 60’s with their four daughters; and the plan is to restore it.
Henry Rust, Architect, stated that the east elevation had the least amount of alterations; that the center of the house is from the 1820’s and is mostly in tack but in poor condition; that the south side was added in the 1840’s; that the house is weak structurally and a series of remodeling was done in the 1920’s; that the north side of the building was originally a stone out building or a beer hall earlier in the century; that the Norman’s added a second floor master bedroom and large sections of the western portion were removed with a series of changes and poor repair work; the majority of the original windows have been removed; that the framing inside is in need of repair; that there is nothing on the interior of the house that is original; that the chimneys, fireplaces and mantes are not original; that it is a challenge to make the structure a useful house; that the western side was completely redesigned and regrading, re-terracing are planned to help with the moisture problems and no real change will take place to the street side; that all materials and colors are listed; that the house will be returned to a single-family residence; that they are planning to salvage as many bricks from the site as possible and re-use them and they will also be using molded brick; that the clapboard will be replace with same where necessary; that the doors and shutters shall be painted green HC-188 and the clapboard and trim shall be painted white OC-61; that the lighting on the porch shall be a carriage light; that the center of the house windows are original windows and will be re-used; that the remainder of the windows shall be bonded on the interior and outside; that the shutters and panel doors shall be Essex green and the shutters shall be working shutters; that they are planning on using he screen wall on the stairs but will take into consideration the Boards suggestion to replicate the railing on the top porch for the railings.
Cheer Hall
HABR#19-18 Permit # 48995
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PUBLIC COMMENT:
No public comment.
FINDINGS OF FACT:
The Board, after personal observation of the property, hearing all the testimony and reviewing all drawings and plans, and other submissions, correspondence and reports (if any), found as fact, that: The application as presented, would not adversely affect the Historical Areas and the surrounding area. The design and materials for the proposed alteration/ addition and renovation:
- The roof shall be “aged cedar” composite shake by Enviro Shake Ontario, Canada.
- The Siding shall be white Benjamin Moore OC-61, and the siding shall be existing wood, repaired and matched Cedar Lap.
- The decorative siding shall be repaired wood to match existing and painted Benjamin Moore OC-61.
- The soffits and fascia shall be wood repaired to match existing and painted Benjamin Moore OC-61.
- The windows shall be Stone White Marvin Clad or existing .
- The trim shall be repaired wood to match the existing and painted Benjamin Moore White OC-61.
- The shutters shall be wood/ existing and new operable custom, painted Benjamin Moore Essex Green HC-188.
- The front door shall be the existing four panel door painted Benjamin Moore Essex Green HC-188.
- The back door shall be a new four panel door custom made and painted to match the front door.
- The other doors on the house shall be paneled custom doors painted to match the front door.
- There shall be a white glazed custom door.
- The lighting shall be bronze/copper ground lights Aurora lighting LMG1-90-NG.
- The step lights shall be bronze BK Lighting B-CD-BQL.
- The stone on the structure shall match the existing natural fieldstone.
- The walkways shall be bluestone.
- The bricks used in chimneys shall be “Augusta” Red Range, molded modular brick by Glen–Gery Corporation.
THis APPROVAL/decision, INCLUDING THE BOARD’S REQUIRED modifications TO THE APPLICANT’S DRAWINGS AND /OR PLANS, or conditions set forth herein, if any, IS GRANTED BY THE historical areas board of review subject to any such conditions and/or modifications, and is LIMITED TO THE SPECIFIC RELIEF REQUESTED HEREIN.
** PRE-1918 CONSTRUCTION: please be advised: In the Historic Area, all construction requiring a building permit or any exterior changes
Cheer Hall
HABR#19-18 Permit # 48995
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(including paint color) to buildings constructed prior to 1918, requires approval from the historicAL areas board of review.
prior approval of the historical area board of review is required prior to any change or modification of the requirements and/or conditions set forth in this decision, including, but not limited to:
- roofing SHINGLES (IF CHANGING COLOR)
- siding
- decorative siding
- soffits & fascia
- gutters and leaders
- windows
- trim
- shutters
- doors
- lighting
- LOCATION OF AIR CONDITIONING UNITS
- WALKWAYS, PATIOS
- POOLS, SPAS AND FENCES
- signs
- any change in the above list including color, material and/or manufacturer
if you have any questions, please contact debbie arbolino, clerk to the historicAL areaS board of review at (845) 359-8410.
DECISION: In view of the foregoing, and after personal observation of the property, hearing all the testimony before the Board, and reviewing all drawings and plans, and other submissions, correspondence and reports ( if any), the application for the Architectural plans dated 08/23/2019 signed and sealed by Christian Louis Martos, Profession Engineer, labeled “The Captain John Willsey House” A-8, A-9, A-10, A-11 (4 pages) and Site Plan labeled “ Proposed Alterations to the Captain John Willsey House” dated 08/23/2019 based on survey by James G. Scheuermann, L.S. Warwick , NY ( 1 page) renovation and restoration of a single family residence is APPROVED.
Cheer Hall
HABR#19-18 Permit # 48995
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Thano Schoppel made a motion to permit the applicant to consider replicating the original baluster/railing on the front porch of the house and use it on the stairs and landings all the way to the ground level of the house if they so choose; which motion was seconded by Loren Plotkin and carried unanimously.
The foregoing resolution to approve the application for the Architectural plans dated 08/23/2019 signed and sealed by Christian Louis Martos, Profession Engineer, labeled “The Captain John Willsey House” A-8, A-9, A-10, A-11 (4 pages) and Site Plan labeled “ Proposed Alterations to the Captain John Willsey House” dated 08/23/2019 based on survey by James G. Scheuermann, L.S. Warwick , NY ( 1 page) renovation and restoration of a single family residence as presented was presented and moved by William Walther, seconded by Thano Schoppel; and carried as follows: William Walther, aye; Thano Schoppel, aye; Margaret Raso, aye; Larry Bucciarelli, aye; Carol Schelin, aye; Loren Plotkin, aye; and Scott Wheatley, aye.
The Administrative Aide to the Board is hereby authorized, directed and empowered to sign this decision and file a certified copy thereof in the office of the Town Clerk.
Dated: October 1, 2019
HISTORICAL AREAS BOARD OF REVIEW
TOWN OF ORANGETOWN
BY: __________________________________
Deborah Arbolino, Administrative Aide
DISTRIBUTION:
APPLICANT TOWN CLERK
TOWN BOARD MEMBERS HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT
HABR MEMBERS TOWN HISTORIAN
SUPERVISOR DEPT. OF ENVIRONMENTAL
TOWN ATTORNEY ENGINEERING
DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY HABR, PB, FILE
OBZPAE PB, ZBA, ACABOR CHAIRMAN
BUILDING INSPECTOR- G.M.
DECISION
APPROVED AS PRESENTED
TO: William Bosley (New Old Stone House) HABR #19-19
10 Sugar Hill Road October 1, 2019
Nyack, New York 10960 Permit #49294
FROM: HISTORICAL AREAS BOARD OF REVIEW, TOWN OF ORANGETOWN
HABR#19-19: Application of “The New Old Stonehouse” for review of an Arbor at an existing single-family residence. The premises are located at 4 Woods Road, in the Town of Orangetown, Hamlet of Palisades, New York. Chapter 12 of the Code of the Town of Orangetown, Section 12-4(A), Historical Areas Board of Review.
Tax Map Designation: 78.18 / 1 / 48; R-40 zoning district
Heard by the HISTORICAL AREAS BOARD OF REVIEW at a meeting held on Tuesday, October 1, 2019 at which time the Board made the following determination:
William Bosley appeared.
The following documents were presented:
- Hand drawn plans of the proposed arbor no author, no date, (2 pages).
- Architectural plan dated January 7, 2015 with the latest revision date of September 23, 2019 signed and sealed by Barry Terach, Architect.
William Bosley, contractor, stated that they are proposing a small arbor on the southwest corner of the house off the kitchen; that it will match the other existing arbor; that the arbor will have 4×4 cedar posts and 2 x 8 rafters and the applicant plans to plant wisteria to grow over it; and that it will be painted charcoal black to match the house.
PUBLIC COMMENT:
No public comment.
New Old Stone House Arbor
HABR#19-19 Permit #49294
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FINDINGS OF FACT:
The Board, after personal observation of the property, hearing all the testimony and reviewing all drawings and plans, and other submissions, correspondence and reports (if any), found as fact, that: The application as presented, would not adversely affect the Historical Areas and the surrounding area. The design and materials for the proposed window and porch
- The arbor will be constructed of 4 x 4 cedar posts and 2 x 8 cedar rafters painted charcoal black to match the house.
THis APPROVAL/decision, INCLUDING THE BOARD’S REQUIRED modifications TO THE APPLICANT’S DRAWINGS AND /OR PLANS, or conditions set forth herein, if any, IS GRANTED BY THE historical areas board of review subject to any such conditions and/or modifications, and is LIMITED TO THE SPECIFIC RELIEF REQUESTED HEREIN.
** PRE-1918 CONSTRUCTION: please be advised: In the Historic Area, all construction requiring a building permit or any exterior changes (including paint color) to buildings constructed prior to 1918, requires approval from the historicAL areas board of review.
prior approval of the historical area board of review is required prior to any change or modification of the requirements and/or conditions set forth in this decision, including, but not limited to:
- roofing SHINGLES (IF CHANGING COLOR)
- siding
- decorative siding
- soffits & fascia
- gutters and leaders
- windows
- trim
- shutters
- doors
- lighting
- LOCATION OF AIR CONDITIONING UNITS
- WALKWAYS, PATIOS
- POOLS, SPAS AND FENCES
- signs
- any change in the above list including color, material and/or manufacturer
if you have any questions, please contact debbie arbolino, clerk to the historicAL areaS board of review at (845) 359-8410.
New Old Stone House Arbor
HABR# 19-19 Permit # 49294
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DECISION: In view of the foregoing, and after personal observation of the property, hearing all the testimony before the Board, and reviewing all drawings and plans, and other submissions, correspondence and reports ( if any), the application for the Charcoal Black Cedar Arbor is APPROVED.
The foregoing resolution to approve the Charcoal Black Cedar Arbor as presented was presented and moved by Loren Plotkin, seconded by Larry Bucciarelli; and carried as follows: William Walther, aye; Thano Schoppel, aye; Margaret Raso, aye; Larry Bucciarelli, aye; Carol Schelin, aye; Loren Plotkin, aye; and Scott Wheatley, aye.
The Administrative Aide to the Board is hereby authorized, directed and empowered to sign this decision and file a certified copy thereof in the office of the Town Clerk.
Dated: October 1, 2019
HISTORICAL AREAS BOARD OF REVIEW
TOWN OF ORANGETOWN
BY: __________________________________
Deborah Arbolino, Administrative Aide
DISTRIBUTION:
APPLICANT TOWN CLERK
TOWN BOARD MEMBERS HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT
HABR MEMBERS TOWN HISTORIAN
SUPERVISOR DEPT. OF ENVIRONMENTAL
TOWN ATTORNEY ENGINEERING
DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY HABR, PB, FILE
OBZPAE PB, ZBA, ACABOR CHAIRMAN
BUILDING INSPECTOR- M.M.